It has been a marathon!!
A cousin sent an interesting newspaper article with the name “J.W. Frantz.” I began the search to identify the man and the answer materialized about six hours later. Just to prove that I “burn the midnight oil,” I’ll publish this blog message. Details will follow in the light of day.
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Perhaps I “read” more into a situation than original intent? My thoughtful, considerate cousin may have sent the information because of the “Frantz” name. I see the article in three ways: 1) A Bible–the word of God. 2) Abraham Lincoln. our first Republican President, and 3) a man with the “Frantz” surname. All three very important to me.
Conservatively, I spent six hours searching for documentation of this man. First: Military records revealed service at Fort Smith, Montana, (1867-1868) and later Fort Sanders in Wyoming Territory (1869-1871). At first, the records listed him as J.H. Frantz but a South Carolina record listed his name as “John” and he was at a military installation (1873-1875) known as “Columbia.” John can be found at Fort Preble and Scammel, Portland, Maine, in 1876-1878. Honestly, I did not “save” every available military record. When I stumbled on his death record in “U.S. Newspaper Extractions from the Northeast, 1704-1930” (and saved to my database), Ancestry suddenly gave me eighteen “hints.”
Ancestry “hints” and “sources” provided the name John Herr Frantz (1837-1882) and “Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Mennonite Vital Records, 1750-2014)” supplied the name of his parents. I was able to merge “John” with the existing family in my Ancestry database.
Too tiny to read? Click on the image to enlarge. This… and another newspaper article told of the hardships suffered during the winter of 1867.
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At midnight, I said it had been a “marathon.” For three days I researched my “Musselman” confusion. (Not my family but my confusion.)
…prompted a lengthy reply.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:41 PM Donald Shull wrote (and I promptly sent the reply):
We’re distant cousins Magdalene Frantz (1827 – 1900) married a Montel, they had a daughter who married an Overholser, who had a daughter who married into my family. So Magdalene is my “great-grandmother of wife of 1st cousin 1x removed”. But we have different “relations” also. When my parents moved to SW Ohio, one of the first friends they made was Dore and Jessie Frantz. Little did either family know they were related, albeit distantly. So the Frantz family holds special interest.Don Shull
SINCERE THANKS for your message. I love, love, love to hear from “cousins” and “roundabout cousins.” Don, allow me to tell you about a God-given blessing.
When I was doing genealogy “the old-fashioned way” researching in libraries, cemeteries, courthouses, Annual Meeting(s), etc., I heard about “The Dore Frantz Manuscript.” Occasionally, I would see something called “Except from The Dore Frantz Manuscript.”
I was at Old German Baptist Brethren Annual Meeting–in Springfield, Ohio–in 1990 or 1991. Lela Landes Shoup was my hostess and we went to the Springfield Library, and cemeteries, etc, plus the Annual Meeting. I repeatedly asked “Where is the Dore Frantz Manuscript?” Nobody seemed to know. Someone suggested I call Ilo Fisher. I called and she said “Call Jess Monteith.” I called Jess and he gave me a two word answer: “Call Dore.” I said “How can I call Dore? He’s dead.” Jess said “Dore, Jr. in Sinsinnata.” I did misspell… that’s the way he said it “Sin sin nat a.”
Lela looked up the phone number and we called and asked if we could visit. We would drive to Cincinnati. Dore Jr. said he would came to his brother George’s house in Springfield. About three that afternoon we were at George’s and I was able to see “The Dore Frantz Manuscript.”
Let me digress and tell you that Dore Sr. did research in the 1930s and 1940s that could not be duplicated in the 1990s. Tombstones are broken off and leaning against a tree or fence, etc. because Lela took me to a lot of the cemeteries. REMARKABLE RESEARCH BY DORE M. FRANTZ.
Dore had typed pages that would eventually be chapters for a book. Remember (or you may be too young) carbon paper in slender boxes? Perhaps fifty carbon-paper boxes that fit neatly into a “just the right size” large cardboard box. Sadly, I did not get a picture of the box of valuable information.
I asked if I could take it back to California and enter the information into my computer. George and Dore said they would think about it. I said I’d buy an old trunk and pack the “valuable information” and ship it to California. A couple of days later they called Lela’s house and said “no.” I asked if they would take it to the place in New Carlisle where police records and hospital records where filmed. I would pay to have the pages available to me. (I was preparing the material that became Frantz Families–Kith & Kin.) I think it was late August (several months after Annual Meeting) when a package arrived–about the size of a Reader’s Digest. There were thirty-nine microfiche–which represented hundreds of pages.
Don, have you seen Frantz Families–Kith & Kin on the Internet? I list Dore M. Frantz as the author, with two other dear folks who were so helpful. I listed myself as “editor.” FF-KK is free on the Internet. Also Digitized Library of Family History.
I see you have DShull Family Tree and I will look at that after I “send” this message. I love your big smile. Would you like an invitation to my tree so you can wander around the forest of Old German Baptist Brethren and Church of the Brethren families??
Sending very best wishes and “happy researching.” THANK YOU for sharing your connection to Dore and Jessie. The printed books (FF-KK) have pictures of Dore and family. I didn’t know how to get the pictures on a CD, and later the data went from CD to Internet website. I wish I had the pictures of Dore and family on the website. I’m quite “savvy” about computers, etc, and Ancestry (for 85 years young) but some features are a mystery to me.
This morning I wrote an article and attached it to several individuals in my Ancestry database. If “a seasoned researcher” is baffled, how does a fledgling view the information?
First: Let me introduce myself as a seasoned researcher. I have more than thirty years experience. Furthermore, I am very familiar with the features of Ancestry.com. Second: I encountered a situation that had me baffled!
Another Ancestry subscriber “commented” that I had an individual linked to the wrong parents. Following her information, Aaron Musselman (1852-1913) was removed as son of George Washington Musselman (1816-1851). That prompted further examination of relationships and eventually he (GWM) was attached to Daniel Musselman (1791-1860) and Anna Judd (1799-1840). Getting to that point was complicated because his wife’s name is “Esther.”
The reader doesn’t need exact details of this researcher’s diligent search for documented “sources” confirming the identity and relationships. For me, the problem was a woman named Esther Wagoner.
Esther (Wagoner) Musselman (1817-1914) was identified married, first (1840), to George Washington Musselman and, second (1870), to Aaron Ulrey (1816-1906). However, Aaron Ulrey’s records listed him married (1836) to Esther Musselman with five documented children.
The answer to the confusion: Both of Aaron Ulrey’s wives were named “Esther.” His first wife bore the maiden name of Musselman (1817-1870). His second wife was Musselman by marriage to his first wife’s brother.
I hope this explanation helps another individual “climbing the family tree.” I’m passionate about “sources” and I believe I have accurate sources to confirm the identity of these several individuals. ~~ ADDITIONS & CORRECTIONS WELCOME.
Lorraine Frantz Edwards is the editor of a three-volume set of books titled Frantz Families–Kith & Kin (available “free” on the Internet), and website titled Digitized Library of Family History. Her Ancestry database is titled Lorraine Frantz Family Tree. Her stories appear in Mennonite Family History. She documents genealogy experiences on her blog titled Three Quarters And Counting.